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		<title>By: Deadlines, schmedlines : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deadlines, schmedlines : Historiann : History and sexual politics, 1492 to the present</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 13:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] do the rest of you handle setting deadlines for student assignments and late submissions?  Here&#8217;s an interesting idea from Nels P. Highberg (h/t Inside Higher Ed): Keep in mind that I mostly teach writing.  Even when [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] do the rest of you handle setting deadlines for student assignments and late submissions?  Here&#8217;s an interesting idea from Nels P. Highberg (h/t Inside Higher Ed): Keep in mind that I mostly teach writing.  Even when [...]</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: The ProfHacker Week in Review - ProfHacker.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 03:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;[...] Signs the semester&#8217;s in a dark patch: My posts on &#8220;Living with your own absence policy&#8221; and on gadgets in the classroom &amp; Nels&#8217;s on &#8220;Developing Policies for Late Assignments.&#8221; [...]&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Todd Petersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd Petersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I try to look for natural consequences for any penalty in my classes. I, too, have found in the writing world that deadline extensions are generally forthcoming if you pre-negotiate them. In order to address the arguments for accepting a late paper, which annoy me and waste my time even when I keep to the policy and say no (generating flack in the evals like, &quot;he&#039;s difficult to deal with&quot;), I have created a submission window: you can start turning it in  on one day and keep turning it in for a week. Then it&#039;s really over. If you turn it in early, I&#039;ll give you more feedback, because I&#039;ll have the time. If you turn it in late, then you&#039;ll get less, because, you&#039;ve decided to wait. Students seem completely okay with this and have said so in their evals. There is no impact on me, and they feel like they have more control.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to look for natural consequences for any penalty in my classes. I, too, have found in the writing world that deadline extensions are generally forthcoming if you pre-negotiate them. In order to address the arguments for accepting a late paper, which annoy me and waste my time even when I keep to the policy and say no (generating flack in the evals like, &#8220;he&#8217;s difficult to deal with&#8221;), I have created a submission window: you can start turning it in  on one day and keep turning it in for a week. Then it&#8217;s really over. If you turn it in early, I&#8217;ll give you more feedback, because I&#8217;ll have the time. If you turn it in late, then you&#8217;ll get less, because, you&#8217;ve decided to wait. Students seem completely okay with this and have said so in their evals. There is no impact on me, and they feel like they have more control.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I should add that I&#039;ve tried the no-comments approach, but found it didn&#039;t work for me, because the comments help ME explain why an assignment earned the grade it did, without having to re-read it on the spot while the student stares at me.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that I&#8217;ve tried the no-comments approach, but found it didn&#8217;t work for me, because the comments help ME explain why an assignment earned the grade it did, without having to re-read it on the spot while the student stares at me.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: G. Michael Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Michael Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 13:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have a very strict policy on makeups in my syllabus: No makeups are accepted, don&#039;t ask. But inevitably students ask, and inevitably I say yes. Grrrr on me. I&#039;ve never had a habitual, repeat offender. I occasionally take off like 5% of their grade for being late, but I&#039;m not consistent. Something about just wanting to give them credit for work they did just always makes me take it. I&#039;m not very speedy at grading late work if I&#039;ve already graded everyone else&#039;s. Perhaps that&#039;s their penalty. But then I profess math--it&#039;s a bit different.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a very strict policy on makeups in my syllabus: No makeups are accepted, don&#8217;t ask. But inevitably students ask, and inevitably I say yes. Grrrr on me. I&#8217;ve never had a habitual, repeat offender. I occasionally take off like 5% of their grade for being late, but I&#8217;m not consistent. Something about just wanting to give them credit for work they did just always makes me take it. I&#8217;m not very speedy at grading late work if I&#8217;ve already graded everyone else&#8217;s. Perhaps that&#8217;s their penalty. But then I profess math&#8211;it&#8217;s a bit different.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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&lt;p&gt;This post was mentioned on Twitter by ProfHacker: New @ProfHacker: &quot;Developing Policies for Late Assignments,&quot; by @DrNels http://bit.ly/oceHt...&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>This post was mentioned on Twitter by ProfHacker: New @ProfHacker: &#8220;Developing Policies for Late Assignments,&#8221; by @DrNels <a href="http://bit.ly/oceHt.." rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/oceHt..</a>.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Janice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janice</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This has a certain appeal. The great time-suck in assessing written work is providing useful comments. If I have to stretch this out over two or three weeks, it&#039;s difficult to sustain (especially in a class of 135!).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There are some assignments I don&#039;t accept late -- tutorial response papers are due on the day they&#039;re due, full-stop. Since they can drop the lowest 2 out of 7, it&#039;s not onerous in my mind.&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>There are some assignments I don&#8217;t accept late &#8212; tutorial response papers are due on the day they&#8217;re due, full-stop. Since they can drop the lowest 2 out of 7, it&#8217;s not onerous in my mind.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Nicole Wyatt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole Wyatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;For essay based classes I sometimes accept papers throughout the term, with the proviso that anything late gets no commments and will be graded at my leisure, which may mean it is left till the class is over.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However I find this is only practical with small classes, since otherwise I end up with way too much grading at the end of term.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In classes with problem sets where I want to work the problems later in class one can&#039;t accept anything late. I usually point this out to students so that they understand why I am inflexible about it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For essay based classes I sometimes accept papers throughout the term, with the proviso that anything late gets no commments and will be graded at my leisure, which may mean it is left till the class is over.</p>

<p>However I find this is only practical with small classes, since otherwise I end up with way too much grading at the end of term.</p>

<p>In classes with problem sets where I want to work the problems later in class one can&#8217;t accept anything late. I usually point this out to students so that they understand why I am inflexible about it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I have late penalties because I don&#039;t want to be dealing with an endless trickle of assignments over the course of the semester; as it is, there does tend to be a flurry of last-minute submissions the last day of class, as I require that all of them be completed (however badly) in order to earn a passing grade.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The way I work it is this:  Let&#039;s say a paper is due Tuesday the 1st.  I dock a grade&#039;s worth (B to B-) for every day past that that it is late, so a C+ paper turned in Thursday would earn a C- after the penalty.  The docking continues down until the paper reaches a numerical F (50%) and will not earn anything lower than that.  Given that an assignment that isn&#039;t turned in at all gets 0%, there&#039;s an incentive to turn in something, eventually.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;To avoid the late penalties, the students have two options:
1) Turn in a hard copy the day the assignment is due.
2) Email me a copy, which will stop the penalty clock.  If they turn in a hard copy by the end of the next class, I will count it as having been turned in on the day it was emailed.  If they don&#039;t remember the hard copy, then the full late penalty applies, dating from the day that the hard copy is turned in.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The second option, I explain to them, is not to give them extra time on the assignment, but to allow them to avoid late penalties if for some reason they are unable to get a hard copy to me on time.  (Printer troubles, too sick to come to class, etc.)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Students who turn in work late do have an opportunity to remove the late penalty - I give all students the opportunity to revise assignments, averaging the grades of the revision and original.  If a student who turned in a late paper revises it, I will use the pre-penalty grade on the draft for the average, not the grade with penalty applied.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Basically, I want to deter students as much as possible from turning work in late, while not making it so punitive that students just give up if they miss a deadline.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My logic - which I will explain if they ask - is that it&#039;s not fair to me, or their peers, to submit work late.  It increases and complicates my workload, it may give them an advantage (in terms of new information) that their peers didn&#039;t have, it ties up classes in which we discuss each others&#039; work, and it messes up schedules that I carefully arranged so as to ensure that the work was spaced out and coordinated with the readings.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said, I also have the policy that late work is better than no work, so there&#039;s always a spate of long-neglected things showing up the last day of class.  Those all get automatic numerical Fs, and no comments (other than a note about how late they are) - but it&#039;s still better than 0s.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have late penalties because I don&#8217;t want to be dealing with an endless trickle of assignments over the course of the semester; as it is, there does tend to be a flurry of last-minute submissions the last day of class, as I require that all of them be completed (however badly) in order to earn a passing grade.</p>

<p>The way I work it is this:  Let&#8217;s say a paper is due Tuesday the 1st.  I dock a grade&#8217;s worth (B to B-) for every day past that that it is late, so a C+ paper turned in Thursday would earn a C- after the penalty.  The docking continues down until the paper reaches a numerical F (50%) and will not earn anything lower than that.  Given that an assignment that isn&#8217;t turned in at all gets 0%, there&#8217;s an incentive to turn in something, eventually.</p>

<p>To avoid the late penalties, the students have two options:
1) Turn in a hard copy the day the assignment is due.
2) Email me a copy, which will stop the penalty clock.  If they turn in a hard copy by the end of the next class, I will count it as having been turned in on the day it was emailed.  If they don&#8217;t remember the hard copy, then the full late penalty applies, dating from the day that the hard copy is turned in.</p>

<p>The second option, I explain to them, is not to give them extra time on the assignment, but to allow them to avoid late penalties if for some reason they are unable to get a hard copy to me on time.  (Printer troubles, too sick to come to class, etc.)</p>

<p>Students who turn in work late do have an opportunity to remove the late penalty &#8211; I give all students the opportunity to revise assignments, averaging the grades of the revision and original.  If a student who turned in a late paper revises it, I will use the pre-penalty grade on the draft for the average, not the grade with penalty applied.</p>

<p>Basically, I want to deter students as much as possible from turning work in late, while not making it so punitive that students just give up if they miss a deadline.</p>

<p>My logic &#8211; which I will explain if they ask &#8211; is that it&#8217;s not fair to me, or their peers, to submit work late.  It increases and complicates my workload, it may give them an advantage (in terms of new information) that their peers didn&#8217;t have, it ties up classes in which we discuss each others&#8217; work, and it messes up schedules that I carefully arranged so as to ensure that the work was spaced out and coordinated with the readings.</p>

<p>That said, I also have the policy that late work is better than no work, so there&#8217;s always a spate of long-neglected things showing up the last day of class.  Those all get automatic numerical Fs, and no comments (other than a note about how late they are) &#8211; but it&#8217;s still better than 0s.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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