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Disruptive Student Behavior

In this new ProfHacker series, we take on a potentially charged subject:  disruptive student behavior in the classroom.   In this series, we will present a scenario, and we’ll offer a few suggestions from ProfHacker readers about how they might handle a similar situation.  Of course, many of the scenarios we will present are dependent upon the discipline, the class size, and the culture of an institution; we will try to include as many of these variables as we can, while understanding that we can’t account for each and every situational difference.  What we are discussing here are behaviors that– no matter the discipline or the institutional culture– impede learning for other students.  The situations are real and the respondents are real.  However, we have chosen to keep the identity of each respondent and the details surrounding each scenario anonymous.

One last caveat:  we don’t want ProfHacker to become a place to complain about students.  That is not what this series of posts attempts to do.  We want to focus on what we can do, positively and professionally, to handle the sometimes difficult situations we can have with students.

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SCENARIO:  You are lecturing in a course that requires some lecture.  You don’t lecture at every class session; you often have class sessions that center around group activities or discussion.  You have a friendly approach to your students, and they are comfortable in the course and with you.  But on this day, as you do your best to present to students information that they need, you notice Chatty Cathy and her friend Conversational Carl talking, openly and loudly.  It is clear by their body language, their laughter, and the words you overhear that they are not discussing course content.  You make eye contact, alerting them to the fact that you recognize their discussion and that you want it to stop.  They stop talking.  A few moments later, they start again; only this time, they are whispering.  You verbally ask them to stop.  You notice other students looking over at the chatty pair.  Even those evil looks do not encourage the two students to stop their banter.  They continue to talk and laugh.

RESPONSE:  Now what?  As the professor in the course, what do you do?

  • Respondent #1 (female, assistant professor, humanities):  Since I have a clause in my syllabus that states that I will not tolerate disruptive student behavior, and I do consider talking while I’m lecturing a disruption, I wouldn’t think twice about asking them to take the conversation outside.   However, I’m not being as harsh as that sounds.  It’s not as if students commit one infraction of syllabus rules and they are out the door.  I feel that the students in my classes, who are traditional-aged college students (18-22), are old enough to understand and use simple courteous behavior.  If, after one explicit request to stop the disruptive behavior and after the subtle hints from their classmates to stop (as noted in the example above), then I would ask students to leave the classroom.
  • Respondent #2 (male, adjunct, humanities): I had this happen just this week in one of my classes. The two women were giggling about something. I couldn’t tell if it were class-related or not. We were dealing with some material that might have made some of the students just a little bit uncomfortable–enough to make people prone to giggling nervously. I called on the two students by name and told them that they were making me feel bad since they were having a good time and I didn’t know what it was about. I then postulated that it was similar to being on a road trip with multiple cars, where there always seems to be one car in which everyone is having a really good time. That’s the “cool car.” Everyone wants to be in the cool car, as they are singing, dancing, and making in-jokes. This approach caught them off guard, and as a class we batted around experiences of not being in the “cool car” for about two minutes. Since everyone was talking more freely at that point, I then directed our attention back to the slightly uncomfortable material at hand and the conversation picked up. What I liked about this approach is that it communicated that the behavior wasn’t appropriate at the moment, but it did so without explicitly naming their behavior as bad. What’s more, it allowed me to get us even more engaged in the class discussion. It’s worth mentioning that I have a good relationship with this class, and I’m not sure if this exact approach would ever work again. But I’ve found slightly self-deprecating humor to be one of my best tools for defusing bad class behavior. (It’s of course worth noting that my particular subject position makes this approach possible where it perhaps wouldn’t be for others.)
  • Respondent #3 (female, instructor, humanities):  My response would depend a bit on the personalities involved, but most of the time, I use proximity.  I walk over and stand right near the chatting pair, maybe even between them.  I continue talking to the class, so my attention is on the rest of the class, but my body language makes it clear that they need to stop talking. This works most of the time. If I’m too far away for that approach to be practical, I throw their first names into what I’m saying. For example, “Yes, you need to use documentation.  Cathy!  When you cite your sources — Carl! — be sure to use an accepted ….”  (The insertion of names into a lecture can be effective in getting them to jerk their heads up — and then they will listen carefully to figure out what the heck they missed.  But I don’t use that approach if the student involved is the class clown type who loves attention.)  With some students,  I stop and say directly, “It’s distracting to talk over your chatter.  Please stop talking while I’m trying to explain this.” Then I stare at them until they stop talking. Then I just continue on with whatever I was saying, with my attention focused on the class.  I rarely have to do that.  Usually proximity works fine. If it was a recurring problem, I’d talk to the students individually, outside of class, and explain my expectations for classroom behavior. I’ve actually never had to take it that far.

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Now, it’s your turn: How do you handle this type of behavior from students in your classroom?  Please leave suggestions in comments below.

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22 Comments

  1. Posted October 26, 2009 at 7:07 pm | Permalink

    In my short two month career as a professor I have found myself using approach #2 often. This seems to especially work when I offer a story about myself that makes me look silly/ridiculous/”weird” (there are plenty to choose from) to them, which gets the entire class chatting for a minute and then we can get back on topic.

  2. Posted October 26, 2009 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

    I tend to do one of two things. Sometimes I’ll use the name of one of the talkers in an example, which gets their attention. I also like to walk over to where the talkers are and stop talking until they notice I’m right next to them. When they stop, I say, “We’ll start again whenever you’re ready.” That usually shuts them up pretty fast!

    (By the way, I’m an adjunct in communication, so I teach a lot of the gen ed and prerequisite courses.)

  3. Heather Whitney
    Posted October 26, 2009 at 8:51 pm | Permalink

    I find that usually explaining why they shouldn’t be talking helps. Of course it’s in the syllabus, but for example, if a couple of students get chatty I’ll say, “You know, the recorder is picking up everything you’re chatting about. It will be distracting to other students as they try to listen to the podcast later [not to mention embarrassing].” Or I’ll remind them that we’re doing active learning methods, which they’ve likely never seen before, and doing so requires me to be able to assess their understanding, and I can’t do that if they are talking about other things.

    But I’m definitely interested in reading what more people have to say on this topic! I teach at least two intro sections a semester, so it comes up often.

    • Posted October 27, 2009 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

      I get this, Heather. Truly I do. But I have to wonder WHY we have to explain that talking/chatting during a lecture or serious discussion is disruptive…. to ADULTS. Sometimes I think we (as a profession) infantilize students by not expecting higher standards.

      • Heather Whitney
        Posted October 28, 2009 at 8:02 am | Permalink

        A good point, and I agree. I should add to my response by saying that I explain this very pointedly to the folks causing the disruption, giving them a very serious look while doing so. It usually has the effect of emphasizing to those who are paying attention that I am striving to keep a productive atmosphere for them, and shows those who are being disruptive that I will not tolerate it.

  4. Posted October 26, 2009 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

    If you’ve given them a verbal warning and they continue, then ask them to leave. Or tell them to leave. It really is that simple.

    The more you tolerate, the less likely they are to get/keep in line. If you get muddled up their personalities or feelings, you never will have any discipline in the classroom. Don’t waste your time and other students on fluff.

  5. Posted October 26, 2009 at 10:37 pm | Permalink

    Respondent #3 is closest to my approach, plus a few others I have on hand:

    1) Calling on students immediately to the left and right of the disrupters, and paying attention to their neighbors when they’res responsive. 2) Asking a question and then immediately calling on disrupters, behaving as if their chatter is simply an answer I couldn’t hear properly. 3) Asking them to stay right after class and explaining that their behavior was disruptive and why. (I also do this for other disruptive activities.) Usually I only have to ask once per semester. 4) Walking around and forcing students to track me consciously while I talk, preferably in an unpredictable but friendly manner (i.e., calling on students and moving either next to them or to the opposite side of the room, but with full attention).

  6. Posted October 26, 2009 at 10:39 pm | Permalink

    I hit “Post” before explaining that I started to try the last one before I read Darby Lewes’s A Portrait of the Student as Young Wolf. I would take Lewes’s pop social psychology with a grain of salt, but it’s a useful conceit to think about classes as groups.

  7. Posted October 27, 2009 at 12:19 am | Permalink

    I’ve start with Sherman’s technique two (calling on them directly). If that doesn’t work, I tend to use Kaitlin’s technique (move toward them, stop talking, wait until they notice and then say something like “Are you done? Because the rest of the class is waiting.” Either will usually work.

  8. Posted October 27, 2009 at 4:34 pm | Permalink

    Although I don’t often lecture, I use #3 when I am, or if we are in the middle of a discussion and a subsidiary & distracting conversation starts. If I’m pulling together material, say, ina 15-minute mini-lecture, I always try to use a remote pointer to change slides, so that I can keep in the move. Respondent #3 is so right, though, to accentuate that attention should remain on the group as a whole, not on the chatters/disrupters.

    Remembering that many students are not far from being high schoolers, and even if a little older, sometimes haven’t quite developed mature behaviors during seminar sessions, I’ve often found a quick read of Chapter 5: Discipline is Not a Dirty Word, in LouAnne Johnson’s Teaching Outside the Box will remind me of the right technique for a particular situation.

    • Posted October 27, 2009 at 10:44 pm | Permalink

      I like that so many folks use respondent #3’s ideas, the one about proximity. I wonder how this method might work in a large class, 200 students?

  9. Posted October 27, 2009 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    I’m going to follow the first response. I have a hearing problem, though, that was corrected with surgery when I was eight (or I’d possibly be deaf now), so I tell those students that my hearing situation is so that I have trouble processing things when lots of sounds are happening at once. So far, no one has ever continued a conversation after I say that.

    • Posted October 27, 2009 at 10:45 pm | Permalink

      Nels, I wonder if students would have the same response if you were female with a hearing situation?

      • Posted October 28, 2009 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

        I don’t see why it would differ based on gender, as long as you say it like you mean it and not sound like it’s a desperate plea to get them to shut up. It would, however, probably differ based on age. I’ve come across quite a few adjuncts in my time who were pushing 80, and were adjuncting to keep active during retirement. I think in those cases it’s probably harder, as students are likely to assume right from the start that the prof is too old or senile to hear/notice/remember.

  10. Posted October 28, 2009 at 10:06 am | Permalink

    Tell them to take it outside. Really … you’re the instructor. Act like it.

    • Posted October 28, 2009 at 10:34 am | Permalink

      100% agreed.

    • Posted October 28, 2009 at 12:50 pm | Permalink

      I try (but often fail) to avoid having a heavy hand when it comes to disciplinary actions, and here’s why:

      Reason 1: Many of my students (especially in first-year composition) are first-generation college students. I want them to succeed. If I act more the role of the enforcer and less the role of the coach and mentor, they are much less likely to succeed.

      Reason 2:Often, what looks to me like “disruptive behavior” is actually 2 students having a side conversation about the very topic the rest of the class is discussing. Is this the right way to behave? Obviously, not. But is telling the students to “take it outside” the best response? Well, everyone needs to decide for themselves, but for me the answer is “no.”

      • Posted October 28, 2009 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

        The scenario originally posted, “It is clear by their body language, their laughter, and the words you overhear that they are not discussing course content.”

        And it’s a lecture situation when they need to pay attention, rather than interact with each other.

        You ask them once to stop. If they don’t, you ask them to leave. It’s that simple.

        First year or not, if you establish a pattern of non-control, that’s what they expect. If it’s obvious they are not behaving properly, then it’s also obvious they need to leave if they can’t follow the rules.

        I like my students to succeed too, but being a softy isn’t going to help them succeed. You can give them the tools to learn, but it’s up to them to use those tools (e.g., your lecture). And when they impinge upon other students experience, it’s time for them to take it outside.

        • Posted October 28, 2009 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

          I’m not telling you what to do. I’m just telling you what I do, which I have found works pretty well for me and my students.

          If you find that a different approach works well for you and your students, that’s great.

          • Posted October 28, 2009 at 1:49 pm | Permalink

            Great, but if you are having to resort to heavy handed techniques anyway (as you suggest in your opening sentence), why not cut to the chase?

            I’ve no doubt that the lecture situations and students you have are quite different from mine and others. And I’m sure you choose what you think is best.

            I can only tell you that in every teaching situation I’ve had (10+ years), tolerating non-topical disruptions past a warning is a recipe for continued disruptions.

  11. Christy
    Posted November 11, 2009 at 10:17 am | Permalink

    If I get annoyed enough, I stop talking and look straight at the offending students. The rest of the class usually notices and looks the same direction, and the offending students catch on and shut up.

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